We revisit the quantum security (in the QROM) of digital signature schemes that follow the Fiat-Shamir-with-aborts (FSwA) or the probabilistic hash-and-sign with retry/abort (HSwA) design paradigm. Important examples of such signature schemes are Dilithium, SeaSign, Falcon+ and UOV. In particular, we are interested in the UF-CMA-to-UF-NMA reduction for such schemes. We observe that previous such reductions have a reduction loss that is larger than what one would hope for, or require a more stringent notion of zero-knowledge than one would hope for. We resolve this matter here by means of a novel UF-CMA-to-UF-NMA reduction that applies to FSwA and HSwA signature schemes simultaneously, and that offers an improved reduction loss (without making the zero-knowledge assumption more stringent).